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Add Enforce Password Policy and Password Expiration Checkboxes to VA User Profile Form

When you create a user in Vista that then creates a SQL login, these check boxes are not checked in SQL.  This becomes a manual process of not only doing it in SQL but having to remember to do it in SQL

  • Troy Hagen
  • Apr 25 2018
  • Will not implement
Company Minnesota Limited
Job Title / Role Director - IT
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  • Eric Vasbinder commented
    April 25, 2018 18:17

    Understood.  If your auditor is OK with it, then that's good.  I still don't personally recommend it, but I understand the situation.  I can look into what this would take, but to be straightforward here, since SQL already does this, AD is our recommended approach for on-premise customers, and there's a lot of other higher demanded items from customers, at the moment I'd like to hold tight on this one until we see if this item rises in importance to additional customers.  For our cloud customers, the situation is different as our cloud environment uses a separate login from your on-premise anyway, with users managed through a nice web portal.  Cloud customers automatically get this setup.

  • Troy Hagen commented
    April 25, 2018 18:06

    I understand that this is not a true dual factor authentication method.  Audit is most concerned with not allowing single sign-on, which this mitigates.  We currently use SQL to manage these settings.

  • Eric Vasbinder commented
    April 25, 2018 18:03

    Also, in addition, though it would be handy to manage these things through VA, you may also use SQL's own user management and password settings to help with this need.

  • Eric Vasbinder commented
    April 25, 2018 17:56

    Unfortunately, using one password for login and another password for Vista does not satisfy most two factor authentication requirements.  Usually, it would require the use of an additional type of authentication.  If I'm speaking the obvious, please accept my apologies, but there are three factors that are considered for authentication:  Something you have (one time code keyfobs/digital certificates), something you know (passwords), and something you are (biometrics).  To properly enable two factor, you'd need to have a password as one factor and then either biometrics (e.g. fingerprints) or a physical thing (e.g. code from something like an RSA keyfob) as the other factor.

    Two passwords are just two "somethings you know" that can be easily stolen or in some cases guessed or determined through another compromised site's data (e.g. from password reuse).  As such, having AD and SQL authentication together does not satisfy two factor authentication requirements.

    If your auditor says that this is acceptable, then that's fine, but I would recommend using a "real" second factor for your authentication, tied in to AD.

  • Troy Hagen commented
    April 25, 2018 17:41

    Yes to your last question.  COSO.

  • Eric Vasbinder commented
    April 25, 2018 17:00

    Active Directory supports two factor auth.  Is that something you've considered implementing for SoX compliance?  Also, what is the compliance framework you're using for SoX (CobiT, COSO, ISO, etc.)?

    Finally, are you referring to using AD to login to your systems and then SQL to log in to Vista, and using that as two factor?

  • Troy Hagen commented
    April 25, 2018 16:26

    SOX requires dual factor authentication.

  • Eric Vasbinder commented
    April 25, 2018 16:22

    This is a great idea.  That said, just out of curiosity, since our preferred method of authentication into Vista is AD, I'd like to know the impetus behind continuing to use SQL logins.  Do you have an AD authentication infrastructure?

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